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This live chat was conducted via Zoom on Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:00 PM EST. My guests include Ko Phanasa of KP1 Worldwide (IG @kophanasa) and Luis Portelles who runs his own YT channel under his name. @Luis Portelles In this chat, we discussed the following topics:
1. Russia banned from Miss Supranational after Russia invaded Ukraine
2. Reaction of Russian and Ukrainian queens towards the Ukrainian crisis
3. Miss Grand International’s reaction to the Ukrainian crisis; MGI road show to Latin America
4. Stephanie del Valle boycotting Miss World 2021 finals on March 16, and her legal battles. Who do you think will win the blue crown?
5. Miss France changes its rules and Miss Universe 2016 from France Iris Mittenaere supports the changes.
6. The official 50 candidates for Miss Universe Philippines 2022. Who are our early favorites?
TIMESTAMPS
3:13 – Luis enters the chat room. Greetings. Rafa asks him questions:
4:24 – Have you created any enemies?
5:21 – What got you interested in pageants?
7:11 – Rafa, “If I wanted to earn more YouTube money…”
7:43 – Rafa greets viewers and commenters
9:08 – Rafa’s longest podcast so far
10:30 – Rafa and Luis briefly speak in French, Luis lives in Montreal
11:31 – Luis was born and raised in Cuba and recently visited Cuba
13:02 – Why hasn’t Cuba sent delegates to Miss Universe?
14:50 – Cuban delegates sent to MGI, Miss Supranational, etc.
15:31 – Rafa reads viewers’ comments
16:15 – Russian invasion of Ukraine
17:18 – The real reason Russia invaded Ukraine, “Do you like my banner?”
19:39 – Luis says the invasion is a very complex subject. He refers to his old Cuba which is a communist country. He is not a political person, but he sympathizes with people who are suffering.
22:21 – Playing neutral in politics
22:54 – Rafa blames Bill Clinton and Barack Obama for the invasion; he also thinks that Trump had remained president, Putin would not have invaded Ukraine
23:55 – Rafa reads viewers’ comments
24:58 – Ko enters the chat room
27:00 – What Ko thinks of the Russian invasion of Ukraine; some Thais are being contracted to fight for Ukraine; there’s a long history of people from other nationalities being hired to fight for other nationalities
34:47 – Miss Grand Ukraine 2015 Anastasiia Lenna posts a photo of in military gear – but is this just a photo shoot or is she really going to war?
Ko is disappointed.
37:42 – Miss Supranational bans Russia; Rafa does not agree with this ban. Luis and Ko agree with the ban.
43:16 – Rafa counterargues, Ko supports cancel culture (banning Russian queens)
46:32 – Luis agrees with Ko, but the government does not always reflect the will of the people. Queens are supposed to be ambassadors. It’s a question of not promoting a bad ideological message.
48:43 – Rafa reads viewers’ comments – Ko sounds like Miss South Africa in reference to the queen’s “cancel culture” response at Miss Universe 2021
51:23 – Reacting to MGI president Nawat Itsaragrisil’s reaction to the invasion
52:56 – Rafa doesn’t think MGI’s slogan “Stop the War and Violence” is not taken seriously by intelligent fans compared to Miss Earth’s slogan “Beauties For a Cause” which is more realistic
53:50 – Ko says several Miss Grand Thailand winners have expressed opposition to the war, but that MGI’s management has been quiet
56:11 – Every pageant is copying Miss Earth now
56:35 – Luis is not bashing MGI but he does not agree with Nawat’s behavior or choice of words; this is a missed opportunity for MGI to not be more vocal about the war
1:00:10 – Rafa criticizes MGI’s bad leadership; he reads viewers’ comments
1:02:00 – Rafa’s opinion on Andre Sleigh of Miss Supranational; Luis says that MGI is not being taken seriously because it’s superficial and that it only seeks to get more followers
1:04:50 – Rafa feels sorry for Nawat and that he suffers from some type of mental illness
1:05:31 – Luis thinks Nawat is childish and he feels bad for the girls mistreated by MGI like 4th runner-up South Africa who was not included in the group trip
1:07:27 – Rafa and Luis on Samantha Panlilio and how she was used by Nawat
1:11:15 – Rafa (pretending to be Nawat) asks Luis a hypothetical question
Luis thinks he may lose his credibility if he accepts Nawat’s invitation
1:13:00 – Rafa reads viewers’ comments – how about MGI creating a YouTube channel soliciting donations for Ukraine
1:14:30 – Ko thinks that Nawat only cares about himself and his pageant growing; she supports cancel culture in some parts of the world
1:17:15 – Rafa is opposed to cancel culture, what we need is more speech
1:18:23 – MGI’s road show to Latin America; does Ko know something that we don’t know?
1:21:10 – Ko says that Nawat is selling tour tickets to Indonesia to Miss Grand Thailand contestants who can afford them (or who have financial backers)
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1:24:23 – Rafa wouldn't be surprised if Nawat pimps his girls to old, rich businessmen; Ko says the MGI top 5 this year will go to Indonesia
1:25:56 – Rafa reads viewers' comments; Nawat is going to Latin America to sell TV rights
1:29:00 – Ko calls MGI a cult
1:31:45 – Reacting to Stephanie del Valle boycotting Miss World finals on March 16; who is going to finance the finals?
1:34:33 – Who will win Miss World 2021? Rafa reveals his MW top 5
1:39:46 – Ko reveals her MW top 5
1:41:12 – Luis reveals his MW top 5
1:45:00 – Who is the most marketable MW contestant?
1:46:06 – Rafa reads comment from viewer Lex about the USA rep, Shree Saini; Rafa mentions that Shree is not the original legitimate Miss World America, but it's Alissa Anderegg whom Rafa will interview on March 10
1:46:16 – So who will win Miss World?
1:51:23 – Ko asks if MW is going to crown another woman of color
1:53:04 – Rafa reads viewers' comments – MW may not have a second edition this year due to financial problems
1:53:57 – Miss France changes its rules; Rafa quotes Iris Mittenaere who supports the changes
1:57:30 – Rafa does not want these changes within Miss France
1:58:44 – Ko supports the lifting of some requirements especially age
2:00:40 – Rafa does not support extending the age limit to 30 because it's not fair for an 18-year-old to compete with a 30-year-old contestant
2:04:53 – Rafa thinks a woman is "over the hill" when she's over 25; Ko asks Rafa why there is age requirement; Rafa plugs Universal Woman pageant; he jokes that he will coach Ko to be Thailand's representative to this new pageant LOL
2:08:00 – Ko asks Rafa what he thinks of a Thai state director who is only 21; is this guy too young to be a director? Rafa says it all depends on one's skills and one's use of wisdom.
2:12:52 – Rafa reads viewers comments
2:13:44 – Luis is pro-change but does not mean he agrees with everything; he is now looking into male pageants; he wants to see more pageants emphasizing leadership and empowerment
2:19:55 – Rafa reads viewers comments – Feminism destroyed pageantry in Europe; Rafa agrees; he only cares about being entertained by pageants. Perception of beauty changes in cycles.
2:24:45 – Rafa thinks that pageant organizers need to carefully select the judging panel for the sake of fairness
2:27:40 – Miss Universe Philippines 2022 Top 50
2:28:55 – Rafa's early favorites
2:36:00 – Ko's early favorites
2:46:32 – Luis's early favorites
2:59:08 – Rafa reads viewers' comments
3:00:22 – Wrap-up
3:01:26 – Question from a fan that Ko read: Why is there no "black Pinay" contestants this year?
3;04:38 – Ko plugs an interview she'll be doing with a Thai celebrity the following day
3:06:11 – Goodbyes. Rafa encourages regular commenters to join in future chats
Please refrain disinformation about volunteer foreign fighters to Ukraine that are paid. These misinformation is dangerous. They’re volunteer fighters not mercenary.
I want to highligh a point. Miss World is financially backed by United Kingdom's Queen Family so they never really need sponsors backing them . If you will see they have heavily focused on charities and this the main reason. They don't need a face to bring money, they already have that part covered. I agreed with Luis , they currently need a face who can better their image against all the law suits and I personally believe India is their best bet. Indian beauty queens are globally loved and liked. Manasa is a great Speaker and has a huge support coming from West Countries. So , Manasa and India together as a brand can favour for MWO
Vive Le Trump!!!!! Long live Ukraine!
Tito Rafa, any plans doing a colab with Tita Lavinia with the rest of your regular guests like Peter?
Sorry I didn't make the live at the beginning but I think if Cote D'Ivoire doesn't get the crown she should make a run at Miss Universe. Olivia Yace is my favorite for the MW crown but would be happy if South Africa, Venezuela, Philippines, USA, or India wins. There might be a surprise since the winner will have a short reign till December so MWO could go for an unconventional candidate as well. I haven't heard no info on where Miss USA or Miss Universe will be held this year. I think with covid going away South Africa would be a perfect choice for hosting Miss Universe this year possibly France too.
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The liberal in me gets Luis’s argument for a renewed & evolved view of lifting all physical boundaries for pageants. But I also understand where Rafa is coming from; if you don’t agree with pageantry then why even attempt to joim, only to sue the organization if you fail to pass their requirements. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏽♂️