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This chat was conducted via Zoom on August 6, 2022 at 8:00 PM EST. My guests include Hector Joaquin, Peter Sereno, Brian Javier and Sabrina Solomon. We discuss the updated requirements of Miss Universe: starting in 2023, the pageant will now accept married and pregnant women and/or single mothers.
TIME STAMPS:
4:42 – Sabrina joins in but her audio is not working. Rafa can’t hear her, but she can hear Rafa. Lol. She will have to log out and log back in again. This problem lasts for a few minutes.
7:42 – Brian joins in
8:43 – Hector joins in but disappears for a few minutes
9:40 – Rafa apologizes for miscalculating Sydney time, and this explains why Peter hasn’t showed up yet
10:31 – Sabrina is able to fix her audio, and takes one minute to fix her video
11:40 – First time for Rafa and Sabrina to meet face to face even though they have been Facebook friends for many years
13:29 – Sabrina says she hasn’t seen a Miss Universe pageant in a venue
14:21 – Rafa reads viewers comments and notices that William Prendiz de Jurado is watching. William is the world’s biggest MU fan
14:57 – Hector is back
15:49 – A viewer asks why Andre Sleigh quit Miss Supranational
16:09 – Peter joins in
16:46 – Rafa explains why Peter is late
17:22 – Peter has to wear his beanie because he doesn’t have time to fix his wear, Rafa explains why he has to wear sunglasses
18:15 – Rafa hints as to why Andre Sleigh quit Miss Universe
19:27 – Rafa thanks Hector for informing him about the letter stating the updated requirements
19:49 – Rafa reads the main points of the letter
21:50 – Rafa reads William’s comments
22:29 – Peter’s initial reaction to the updated requirements
26:09 – Hector gives his opinion; he says he was shocked
28:06 – Sabrina expresses her strong opinion
29:55 – Rafa asks who wants to see a pregnant woman parading on stage about to give birth
30:48 – Brian feels that there is lack of information
31:47 – Rafa cites Miss Universe 1996 Alicia Machado who disapproves of the changes
32:53 – Brian says he was confused when he first know about the changes, but the more negative comments he hears the more he agrees with the changes
35:10 – Rafa argues that the changes equate a bad move. He cites the business, political and legal agenda behind the changes. No one has to like these changes.
37:47 – Sabrina shares her early experience with Miss Universe when she was younger
38:12 – Rafa tells how he first fell in love with Miss Universe through Barbie dolls
39:42 – Brian says no young people don’t watch Miss Universe
40:22 – Rafa says that MU needs to realize that 45% of their audience come from Asia and Latin America; reads comments from his Instagram followers
41:58 – Sabrina questions age requirements
43:03 – Rafa mentions pageants the cater to different age groups
43:59 – Sabrina feels that the update requirements will not last just like in any company where a new person wants to make changes but eventually don’t last
45:24 – Rafa: Why can’t they leave things the way they area? Rafa reads a letter from Gus Castaneda, the former trainer of Miss Universe 1991 Lupita Jones, who opposes the changes.
48:00 – Brian says that MU is not about nostalgia anymore, which Rafa disagrees with
48:57 – Peter says that MU no longer has the star quality it used to be
49:20 – Brian says that the idea of a MU being married and has a family and a job is impressive
49:50 – Rafa asks Peter if he knows of a Mrs. titleholder shares the same load of responsibilities and stressful traveling schedule as Miss Universe Harnaaz Sandhu
52:35 – Sabrina thinks that MU should just change its name because the changes have ruined the brand
53:29 – Rafa reads William’s comments. Rafa mentions that MU allowed married women from 1952 to 1956. But why was this rule eliminated?
55:31 – There is already a Mrs. Universe. Brian thinks the “Mrs.” title is “barbaric”
56:18 – William’s comment: prizes are no longer mentioned during the live telecast
57:28 – Can lesbians join pageants?
58:18 – Comment fan: Miss Universe will not celebrate its 100th anniversary
59:57 – Directors are still processing these changes, but they should be happy. Hector says many Puerto Rican married women are happy with the changes.
1:01:50 – Peter: MU doesn’t want to be seen as a segregationist. Rafa: why can’t MU instead create new and separate events that are inclusive?
1:03:16 – Viewer Monica asks if Rafa can join Miss Universe
1:04:15 – Viewer: Crystle Stewart disagrees with the changes and this is the reason Miss USA split from MUO
1:05:17 – On Mrs. World
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No wordet that MUO is now a WOKE organization because the CEO is a Demoncrats. Hahaha
Great discussion! Please do a follow-up!
TIME STAMPS (CONTINUED):
1:05:43 – Rafa reads a comment by former Miss Bahamas Deanna North
1:07:18 – Brian condemns the hypocrisy of the age requirement; Peter says that changes are great
1:08:40 – Rafa argues that all these changes are laden with politics
1:09:12 – Hector says that CEO Amy Emmerich is well-known in the Democratic Party. Sabrina thinks that we really do not know what Emmerich is doing; is she really for women's rights?
1:11:30 – Peter says that the national directors are the gatekeepers; it's up to them to enact these changes
1:12:48 – Rafa reads viewers comments – Miss Universe Creed
1:13:42 – Some countries have accepted married women
1:14:44 – Peter says he knows a lot of married women who would be a threat to single women
1:15:32 – Hector: Let's wait to see what happens. Hector recounts his reaction when he read the letter in a bar where most people were happy of the changes.
1:18:40 – Brian thinks that MUO will take care of the logistics if a pregnant or married woman wins
1:19:12 – Rafa reads a comment from viewer Anishka Lockhart – can we have a single and married lady from the same country compete at the same time?
1:20:30 – Hector feels that MUO will take care of a married titleholder with kids. He wants to apply for a nanny position with MUO.
1:22:06 – Viewer Haryo says that MUO should hire Andre Sleigh
1:22:35 – Rafa invites William to join the chat group some day. Hector shares an experience with William in Texas.
1:22:39 – Hector plugs in Miss Universe Puerto Rico 2022 pageant and he wants Ashley Carino to win.
1:24:20 -Brian says that the new Miss Angola and Miss Honduras have been crowned
1:24:35 – Where and when will MU 2022 be held?
1:25:00 – Rafa reminds Hector of the ugly episode with Magali Febles in 2010; we all think that Magali is a great director.
1:26:10 – Brian has a surpise for Hector
1:27:30 – Rafa says that the new Miss Angola is Swelia Antonio who represented the Netherlands in Miss Supranational 2021
1;28:14 – Rafa thinks that pageant fans should stop hyping their candidates
1:28:50 – But where will Miss Universe be held?
1:29:38 – Peter wants the gang to attend Miss Grand International in Indonesia!
1:30:14 – When is Miss Earth? We don't care about Miss World? Peter insists we do a live show in Indonesia.
1:31:31 – Hector exits the room
1:32:00 – Rafa thanks his guests, Sabrina says it's because of pageants that she met us, pageants unite people
1:33:17 – Goodbyes!
You all have very good points as always. And that new sash you made is hilarious.